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« Reply #45 on: May 22, 2009, 05:31:37 PM »

David, I have done some more testing with the rectangle symbols. Here are some small remarks, no big issues. That's why I did not post in the "problems" section.

250 - the symbol cannot mirror, only rotate
250-252 - diagonal symbol missing
500-501 - vertical symbol missing
510 - the symbol cannot mirror, only rotate
520 - the symbol cannot mirror, only rotate
601 - status bar text not like other symbols (NL version 3.27.0)
611 - status bar text not like other symbols
611 - wrong text for tooltip in the library
613 - status bar text not like other symbols
613 - wrong text for tooltip in the library

Some symbols are in pairs. Like 300-301, 304-305, 500-501 and so on. They are mirror sybols, which is a single mouse-click. The missing symbols must be made by rotating, which is more mouse-clicks than a flip. A vertical flip function would make it more easy.

General remark : Due to the size of the symbols I am often working in scale 1:4 or 1:5. The very thin lines around the tiles are very poor visible.

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Sander
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« Reply #46 on: May 22, 2009, 10:36:40 PM »

Thanks Sander,

We'll fix these issues in the next version.

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« Reply #47 on: May 23, 2009, 01:40:45 PM »

Sorry David. I won't be doing any more work on AnyRail for a few days. Yesterday I lost all my bookmarks (Favourites in IE) and am having a hell of a job getting them back. Once the bulk of them are reinstated, I will be back on 'Symbols'.

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« Reply #48 on: May 26, 2009, 01:26:48 PM »

Hi Sander,

We've worked through most of your issues in version 3.27.1

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« Reply #49 on: May 26, 2009, 07:56:39 PM »

David, thanks for this new version. You've got a lot of improvements. This is a great release.

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« Reply #50 on: May 27, 2009, 01:06:28 PM »

All thanks to your great feedback.

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« Reply #51 on: May 27, 2009, 10:19:26 PM »

No Problem David.

Also, I have resolved the problem of adding in an extra row/column. After making the requisite gap, add tile to left/top block of tiles then drag the other block into posiiton using the block that will be adjacent to the one you added. Then it works.

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« Reply #52 on: June 30, 2009, 04:43:39 PM »

Hi David.

Carried over from 'New Version 3.28.0' topic.

There were 3 points.

1. Diagonal Buffer
2. Small black border-less rectangle that can be placed over the track to indicate track break
3. Diagonal ditto.

Regarding 2 and 3, you replied (2009/5/21) "We can simply do click-on arrows, lines and boxes. Would that solve the issue, or do you need them where tiles meet?" and I replied that I would have to think about it, and then promptly forgot as I had a lot of other worries (and still have). The answer is, basically, that they can be free floating as placing them anywhere is relatively easy. Small black or (opaque) white predefined rectangles would be ideal though Sander's idea for using a capital X looks good on horizontal and vertical lines but is a bit messy on the 45 degree diagonals. Other symbols (such as your suggested arrows - left, right and double ended) sound to be a good idea as well.

Oh well, back to the hot soldering iron and switching circuits.......

Hoping that makes sense and helps, with best wishes,
Chris.
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« Reply #53 on: June 30, 2009, 05:24:15 PM »

Hi Chris,

Thanks for the summary!
We'll add them, but I hope you don't mind if we prioritize on getting version 4 ready for beta testing.
I'll make an official ticket for this, so it won't be forgotten.

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« Reply #54 on: June 30, 2009, 05:26:15 PM »

Duly noted. Thaniks David.
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« Reply #55 on: September 23, 2009, 09:35:48 PM »

Hi David.

From my experience at this month's exhibition where I had to use scattered and (ergonomically) badly placed switches which caused occasional problems, I am really keen to get on with building my version 2 control panel ready for two exhibitions in November. As this will be a pretty massive task, including extensive testing, so I was wondering if it would be possible to add the items I requested in 30th June.

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« Reply #56 on: October 14, 2009, 03:37:03 PM »

Hello Chris,

We've made yet another update for the symbol libraries.

I hope that you now can draw your symbolic track plan the way you want.

If not, let me know!

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« Reply #57 on: October 14, 2009, 04:53:16 PM »

Hi David.

First, thank you again for all the effort you and your team have put into addressing my gripes. I note a hint of 'please let this be right this time' in your voice.

As far as I can see, there is no difference between symbol 1001 and 1013 other than the filler between the two lines. However, I think I have overstayed my welcome here and I really think that should just leave it as it is and not waste any more time on changes that maybe no-one else wants/needs anyway.

I think you got it right in you post of 2009-10-08, 00:03:58 on General Category > New versions > Version 3.31.0 but 3.32.0 still locks the dividers into the tile.

Once again, thank you for all the effort you have put into this.

With my very best wishes,
Chris.
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« Reply #58 on: October 14, 2009, 05:09:51 PM »

Hi Chris,

Apart from that, you can snap them at the extremities of the track now, so effectively between connected tiles.
I understood that that is what you wanted.

However, I see that sometimes the dividers refuse to connect. I'll try to find out what causes that.

To increase chances that the divider's colour matches the colour of the background, I added 4 varieties of it.

Please, let me know if you want more!

David.



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« Reply #59 on: October 14, 2009, 05:48:30 PM »

Hi David.

That's really weird. I tried several times to get then to do that and, however hard I tried, they always jumped to the 1/4 way position. After getting your latest message, I went back to the program (I did a lot more work on it) which was sitting at 1:1 zoom and it worked straight away. So it appeared that one needed to have a reasonably large image to get them placed accurately. However...

I am not using the various coloured symbols for indicating the position of lights etc. so I thought I could use the capsule shaped ones to colour code the tracks (AnyRail fiel attached) and the isolation indicators positioned perfectly as floaters. If you look at my plan, you will see, top left, how they work perfectly though I did have to go through several steps to get the one at 45degrees. You can move them round freely as they are not locked to the end of the track. Now go to the bottom left and you will see a couple there that I just could not get to go into the gaps between tiles. (There is also one, where the white track met the black track that did go into position as long as I kept it very slightly to the right of the gap. Have a play with it and see if you can get it to work.

I haven't experimented all that much as I am working on several things at a time, not least of which is the washing up which must be done NOW!!!!! (Before my wife gets home.)

All the best,
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