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possible issue with rectangle symbols

Started by santerdam, May 20, 2009, 01:17:46 AM

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santerdam

David,

After working a while with the library rectangle symbol, I am getting problems. Dragging symbols to other positions causes the symbol to jump in stead of a nice movement. Cursor positioning is also difficult. The problem slowly gets more and more worse when you continue working. After a while you can't hardly move symbols anymore and it takes a real long time before you see the symbol to jump.

Easy solution is to save the plan, close AnyRail, restart AnyRail and continue editing the plan. Than everything works as a charm again. The problem look to me like a 'memory leak'.

Sander

Extra info : Anyrail version 3.27.0 NL on Windows XP

David

Hi Sander,

Could you please send us your plan file? We'll take a look at it!

David.
David Hoogvorst. Founder and Owner of DRail Software. Creator of AnyRail.

santerdam

David, please find attached the testplan.

Sander

David

Hi Sander,

I've been playing with it for about 10 minutes, adding new tiles, and removing other ones, but it all seems to work smoothly.

Do you have any series of actions that leads to these hiccups?

David.
David Hoogvorst. Founder and Owner of DRail Software. Creator of AnyRail.

santerdam

David,

The series of actions was : Starting with a blank sheet and step by step make this plan. That involved everything, like adding symbols, rotate and mirror, move and replace, add text, move text, ..... The only thing I know is that I did not use rulers and lines.

The whole sessions was about 2 hours, with breaks (coffee and such) without closing AnyRail. Rather often I save to disk while working on a plan. During editing in AnyRail, I sometimes read The BeneluxSpoor forum, check details in the program Koploper and my documentation (Word or Excell). (Computer has lots of power and memory, no restriction for capacity or speed)

The only thing I know is, that at a certain moment you notice the slowing down. I was moving symbols and text. From that moment, the hiccups got worse and worse. Delays went up from 1 second to 20+ seconds and each next move made it worse. I have had the issue twice, each time I could solve by restarting AnyRail and all hiccups are gone.

Sorry, no real strict reproduceable facts.

Sander

David

Hi Sander,

Did this happen only once, or every time again?

We've been bringing down the number of 'Undo' steps in the past to avoid excessive memory usage, but it might still be too large in this particular case.

If it happens again, could you please check the memory usage in the Task Manager?

David.
David Hoogvorst. Founder and Owner of DRail Software. Creator of AnyRail.

santerdam

David,

It happened both 'only twice' and 'every time'  :) That's because I only started yesterday with the new version. I guess you need at least a session of 1+ hour to get the problem. Next time I have problems, I will check taskmanager and report to you.

Sander

Chris

Hi David, Sander.

I had a similar problem with the square tiles. I was dragging symbols from the library right across the screen. They would follow the mouse so far and then stop. A few moments later they would catch up again. However, after this happened with 3 or 4 tiles everything went back to normal so I assumed that it was something else going on in the PC.

Best wishes,
Chris
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santerdam

Hi David, I have an other issue. This time with text. Sometimes I can't get my cursor on a text in order to move the text or edit the text (without moving the track or deleting a symbol).  See attached example.

Sander

David

Hi Sander,

This is one of those cases that wherever you move the cursor on the text, you also hit a tile. And the tiles go first in the 'activation order'. However, you can draw a bounding box (rubber band) around the text to select it and move it with the arrow keys. Once it's moved a bit, you will be able to grab it again to drag it.

David.
David Hoogvorst. Founder and Owner of DRail Software. Creator of AnyRail.

santerdam

Thanks for the reply David. Selecting with the rubber band and moving with cursor keys works. As a workaround, this works. But, more in general, it is not ideal. I noticed that plans are often solid filled with tiles. When I was working with my testplan, I had the situation at least once every 5 minutes.

Sander

David

Hi Sander,

You're right, it's not that convenient in this way.
We'll try to make it a bit easier to grab the text.

David.
David Hoogvorst. Founder and Owner of DRail Software. Creator of AnyRail.

santerdam

Thanks David. Please allow me to do a suggestion.

Now you can grab a tile on the thin line around the tile and on the thick line, representing the rails. The rest of the tile, the 'white space' doesn't select the symbol. Assume a straight rails symbol (200). Move the cursor in a vertical line. You will see the grab is yes (thin line), no (white space), yes (rails), no (white space) and yes (thin line). This on/off behavour is rather 'nervous' when you are working with symbols. When symbols are connected, you hardly see which symbol you select when hoovering the thin line.

My suggestion is not to grab a symbol on the thin line and only grab when hoovering the thick line (rails). I assume that grabbing text is now also solved.

Sander

David

Hi Sander,

We've made grabbing of text a bit easier in version 3.27.1

David.
David Hoogvorst. Founder and Owner of DRail Software. Creator of AnyRail.

santerdam

That's an understatement David ! It is not 'a bit easier', you hit the bull's eye. On a large testtrack I could grab each text very easy, while in the previous version it was hard or even impossible to grab. This is a great improvement. Thanks.

Sander