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Jumping around when zooming out

Started by Future-Digital, November 29, 2010, 05:55:47 AM

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Future-Digital

For some reason I have just noticed an odd circumstance. Perhaps it was there before this current 4.9 version, but I never noticed it.   

After zooming in and working on an object, if I then zoom out, even a little bit the whole layout JUMPS to the bottom right-most corner, from ANYwhere where I was. Most disconcerting.

Bill
"I find television very educating. Every time somebody turns on the set, I go into the other room and read a book." - Groucho Marx

Steve Raiford

I have not observed any change with the "Zoom" function in 4.9.

I have spent many hours figuring out the causes of several issues with the "Zoom" function, and David is aware of them, however I don't think I have seen exactly what you are describing.  Can you post a simple example with instructions on how to duplicate what you are seeing?

Thanks

Steve Raiford
Steve Raiford

Future-Digital

Choose Any .any file.
Zoom all the way in. (Make it as large as possible.)
Go to top. 
Work on something.
Hit the zoom button to make the layout appear smaller by one click, or more.

For me, it jumps to the bottom right-most corner from anywhere in the layout.
"I find television very educating. Every time somebody turns on the set, I go into the other room and read a book." - Groucho Marx

Steve Raiford

I'm sorry but in my files I can not duplicate what you are seeing. As I stated earlier there are several known issues with image position and the zoom function.

Can you attach YOUR .any file that shows the problem, and describe exactly what you are doing. If I can duplicate it I can probably tell if this is the result of the known issues, or if you have discovered a new problem to solve.

Please be specific as there are at least 3 ways to change the zoom level, and the issue may be specific to only one of those ways.

Steve Raiford

Steve Raiford

santerdam

Quote from: Steve Raiford on November 29, 2010, 05:26:19 PM
.... describe exactly what you are doing. If I can duplicate it I can probably tell if this is the result of the known issues, or if you have discovered a new problem to solve.
....

My suggestion is to contact David and let him check the list of known issues. David knows his own product as nobody else.

Sander

Future-Digital

I don't mind attaching my file. Here it is, and open to well deserved criticism.

As stated, if I am zoomed in using the zoom + - at the bottom right hand corner of the screen, and at the top somewhere and have been working on objects, if I then return to that bottom-right hand corner and click on the - one or more times, it jumps to the bottom right hand of my layout, regardless of where I was previously.

Hope you can solve it.

Bill

"I find television very educating. Every time somebody turns on the set, I go into the other room and read a book." - Groucho Marx

Jeff

Sorry, Bill, but it didn't do that on my systems (1 XP, 1 Vista 64).
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Future-Digital

"I find television very educating. Every time somebody turns on the set, I go into the other room and read a book." - Groucho Marx

Steve Raiford

Future Digital & David

Thank you for sharing the .any file. Yes, I see what you are talking about.

This is a known issure in AR. It appears as a zoom issue, but is not a bug in the zoom function.

David is aware of the problem, and knows what he needs to do to fix it.  When this is changed and the other known zoom bug is fixed, all the zoom functions will be much less frustrating for the user.

There is a partial workaround that some users find helpful. Define the working space much much larger than you really want, and then do your work in the center of that space, not in any of the corners. This approach will require that you take extra care in printing or exporting, and may impact some individual computers with more limited resources.

If you have a scroll mouse on your computer, you also may find "Cntrl" + "Mouse Scroll Wheel" is a better way to zoom in and out.

Steve Raiford
Steve Raiford

Soulnet

Hi Bill,

Just on your layout i'm assuming the green bit is the surface so to speak am I correct? If so i'm very concerned about the reach in a lot of the areas on the layout. Its the biggest mistake i made in my last layout (16' x 14' and it was hard to start again) but changing it so there is no area that is more than 3' (2 and a half is more ideal). There are some areas with a 4' reach and having done this before it's hard to get to unless you climb onto the table or have clever hatches but if it's a major main line or switching area you want really easy access. Nothing worse than continually having to remove a hatch cause something isn't quite right or having to use the hatch to make repairs or update scenery later!

Only other thing is what do the black lines represent?

Cheers,

Future-Digital

Unfortunately, this thing just grew, like Topsie. Out of control. I occasionally shrink and grow various areas, all the while knowing full well that I am crazy to have ANYTHING over 3 feet. I agree, 2.5 feet would be better, but ambition knows no bounds or common sense. This thing is FAR from built, so I hope to refine it as I learn from those who make kind comments.

The black lines? I am not able to go look at this moment, but the only black lines I remember are roads (3 inches) and a few dividers and rulers. Don't really know what you are referring to. Sorry.

Thanks,


Bill
"I find television very educating. Every time somebody turns on the set, I go into the other room and read a book." - Groucho Marx

Jeff

You are so lucky! All that room for trains! I could do with about half that and still be happy...
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Future-Digital

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Bill
"I find television very educating. Every time somebody turns on the set, I go into the other room and read a book." - Groucho Marx

Jeff

#13
Bill,

If I try your tricks on my laptop (minimal RAM, Win XP Pro), I can get it to jump to the right when zooming out... IF I'm on the right side of the layout. Why this should make any difference, I have no idea.

Next- If I had the (scale) miles of space you do, I'd probably do something like this... (see included file)(feel free to imagine another dozen industrial sidings and such)
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Future-Digital

I love it. You really are "industrious," aren't you. Thank you for putting in so much effort.

Would you care to suggest placement of some of the building that I already have, shown on the version I am sending back?

Any others want to chime in?


Thanks, again.


Bill
"I find television very educating. Every time somebody turns on the set, I go into the other room and read a book." - Groucho Marx