Version 5.15

[David]

Hi all!

In this update you'll find new libraries for:
- LUNA H0/H0m, this is a tram system, see http://www.luna-tram.ch/ for details.
- N-tram, N/Nm, also a tram system, very nice and detailed products, see http://www.n-tram.de/ for more details.
- FERRO TRAIN, for cog railways, see http://www.ferro-train.com.
- 00-9/H0e Peco Setrack

Updated track libraries are:
- H0 Peco Setrack
- H0 Peco Streamline Code 75 and Code 100
- N Peco Finescale
- O Peco Code 124
- OO Triang Series 4
- TT Tillig with roadbed

Bugfixes:
- Blocky area problem on Ribbon when unfolding folded groups fixed
- Disappearing window when maximizing on a second monitor fixed
- Create helix now also works for non-metric users
- Currently selected color is indicated on Ribbon when changing color
- Bug when removing sections fixed
- Performance when using large pictures on surfaces improved
- Print selection checkbox problem fixed
- Multiselection made less 'sensitive'. When clicking a wrong item the current selection is not cleared when you've selected more than 1 item.

I hope there's something in it for everyone!

David.


Version 5.15.1 solves an issue with multiselect and dragging.

[BritsTukker]

Very many thanks for the expanded Peco library.
However, one or two slight problems:
- the SL-113 75/100 adaptor is mislabelled as SL-84 in its descriptive text
- the LK-56 and LK-156 are both 297mm and not 49.5mm (although they can be sawn in half to make 2x 148mm lengths - allowing 1mm for the cut).
- the NB-56F is 171mm and not 28.5mm

Sorry for the hassle.

[Mike from CT]

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- Create helix now also works for non-metric users
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I prefer to think of "non-metric users" as "users capable of measuring without being limited to using their fingers", thank you.....

[BritsTukker]

... as "users capable of measuring without being limited to using their fingers", thank you.....

My fingers are not calibrated in mm or any other units, so I rather wonder how you think we measure things....
I prefer to think of 'non-metric users' as 'metrologically-challenged'......

[Tom Springer]

NB-56F is "configurable", comes in 6 sections, 28.5mm each, for max of 171mm if all sections are used; works for me, as I use just 5 sections.  Another reason why AR is best, David got it right!

[Mike from CT]

Brits:

The metric system is decimal-based - because we have 10 fingers, no other reason.

We more advanced folks have no trouble with a base 12/5280 measurement system - it makes perfect sense to us.  (Although I have to admit I'm not sure if that's really a sign of a higher order computational skill or of schizophrenia....    )

[BritsTukker]

NB-56F is "configurable", comes in 6 sections, 28.5mm each, for max of 171mm if all sections are used; works for me, as I use just 5 sections.  Another reason why AR is best, David got it right!

Thanks for that, Tom. I guess that also applies to the LK-56/156 since 6x49.5=297.
It's amazing what Peco don't tell you on their website.
I have an LK-56 (still in its box) and certainly the rails are a single full length.

[Tom Springer]

I presume Peco does the same segmented-part style for all scales they support: makes the product easily configurable and standardized.  btw, until I got the first NB-56F kit, I never knew how many 'segments' there were; all I've ever seen written about this part is that it can be configured as 1 or 2 pits; in reality, one could configure it in many ways.

But this raises an interesting point: because there are 6 pieces in the NB-56F box, if you select more than one NB-56F item and join them together to get the 'right' length for the pit you want, say a 5-piece pit from 5 NB-56F (in AR), the list of materials will show a count of 5 for that part number, even though only 1 actual NB-56F kit need be ordered.  Could (potentially) lead to mis-ordering materials.

I actually have 5 different NB-56F kits as part of my new layout, forming 6 physical pits, 5 segments each; modified the design in AR tonight to put the NB-56F elements in, replacing the original flex track I was using for them.  Then it dawned on me to check the materials list; yes, AR lists 30 as the number of NB-56F 'parts' needed ...

[David]

Thanks all!
Indeed, the label for SL-113 is incorrect. It'll be fixed in the next update.

About the inspection pit: They all come as sixpacks
Problem is indeed the list of materials, but this goes for more items that are sold as a set.

I'm not sure how to solve that yet.

David.

[Tom Springer]

A good start would be to update the description to say the item contains 6 sections and is a kit (for NB-56F "kit of 6 segments, each 28.5mm" ?).

Next (and maybe not the right approach) might be to define NB-56F (and the similar items in other libraries) as 6 already-connected segments/items/elements/pieces, so that the user gets the 6-segment "piece" placed on the layout when they select the item; then they could simply delete the segment(s)/pieces they don't need ...

As for materials, can there be special computations for an item?  i.e., number of NB-56F items (segments) in the layout +5 divided by 6?

Once the description says "kit of 6 segments" that may be enough, because in a sense, flex track pieces have much the same problem; i.e., how many actual pieces of flex track must one order to cover all the pieces in the materials list is a user-exercise.

[GuyBSR57]

Faller N, 212107
Bahnhoff Guglingen has the same sizes as Bahnhoff Guglingen Toilets, there are in double

Guy

[BritsTukker]

Firstly, I must apologise, particularly to David, for writing complete rubbish yesterday about the LK-56 Peco part. I was in transit and trying to write from memory which at my age is clearly got a good idea. Now I'm home again and can look at parts in front of me so I hope to do better. Sorry for any confusion I may have caused.

The LK-56/156 pit is indeed six separate parts of 49.5mm each. Thus the pit can be assembled in multiples of 49.5mm and the kit includes ancilliary pieces to make two independent pits if desired. However, the part number applies to the full set of six sections, not to individual sections. Would it be feasible to have the library entry as a 'set of 6' pieces as you have done with the Setrack level-crossing pieces. One could then pick up the set as a single item and move the bits around or delete some as you have to do with the level crossings? This may offer a way to solve the parts-list problem, although I see that the crossing parts are listed individually in the parts list and not as a set. If each section of the LK-56 was labelled as, say, LK-56c as is done for the crossing parts, you would at least be able to see that you're not referring to complete kits.

[Jeff]

Thanks all!
Indeed, the label for SL-113 is incorrect. It'll be fixed in the next update.

About the inspection pit: They all come as sixpacks
Problem is indeed the list of materials, but this goes for more items that are sold as a set.

I'm not sure how to solve that yet.

David.

David,
Obviously, if the individual parts are not available for sale, then the materials list should show the kit number, not the part. If you can get the bits, then ignore the kit number and list the part...