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Breitefurt (my first layout)

Started by Chris, May 17, 2009, 12:19:04 am

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Andrew

The 2 prominent mounts are Rechberg on left and Stuifen on the right. We were driving from Hohenstaufen heading north. Between the Rechberg and Stuifen mounts is the village of Rechberg. Also atop of Rechberg mount is a Church. This is about 60 km east of Stuttgart and 15km from Goeppingen, where Maerklin's Head office is.

These 3 hills/mounts are known as the Drei Kaiserberge or 3 emperor's mountains, so named after Holy Roman emperors who came from there.

Here are some links.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Hohenstaufen
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drei_Kaiserberge
Yours,

Andrew

Andrew

The Maerklin Museum is interesting as is the Transport museum in Nuernberg, if I were to put the all my photos and video here it would take days. If you get the chance to go do it you will not be disappointed.
Yours,

Andrew

Chris

Hi Andrew.

Much as I would love to get to Nurnberg, I have enough problems getting to Glasgow, let alone further abroad.

Incidentally, I may have discovered a simple way to do road surfaces. It used an acrylic primer with built in grit. I have ordered "Elephant", a mid grey tone. (Asphalt roads are only black for the first couple of days after laying.) I'll let you know how I get on.

All the best,
Chris.
Chris
N & Z Home Page -- Bahnhof Breitenfurt - Ost

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Jeff

Ok. And if you intend doing concrete roads, consider buying a bag of cheap concrete and dusting the road surface of the wet paint with that until it looks right.
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Chris

August 04, 2010, 05:17:02 pm #49 Last Edit: August 04, 2010, 05:29:16 pm by Chris
Ach, Jeff..... perrrleeasssse! No concrete!

I have printed some lovely cobblestones for the 'street' and station yard. They are slightly over-scale, so that the pattern can be seen, but not too obviously large. The loco yard and freight yard will be black (as in cinders) emery paper/cloth with a few highlights.

I've ordered some Faller track ballast, and fencing to separate the various areas from each other. The hill will, as mentioned, be (elephant) grey asphalt but first I have to smooth the surface as it has 2ft (60cm) deep potholes in it! I have just over 6 weeks from now until the Inverness exhibition.

All the best,
Chris.
Chris
N & Z Home Page -- Bahnhof Breitenfurt - Ost

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Jeff

Having driven and walked over cobblestone, I would rather have a dirt cow-path (instead of the usual cobblestone one...) :)
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Chris

Hi Jeff.

Bearing in mind that my layout is set in the late 1890's/early 1900's concrete would be very unlikely, hence the cobblestones. Actually, when I was last in Germany, back in the 60's I often rode my old Vincent Black Shadow over cobbles in Frankfurt am Maine without feeling any excessive vibration. I guess it depends on how well they are laid (and how long ago) as well as how many 40 tonne trucks have driven over them.

Of course, from my layout's point of view, they just look pretty.

I've just tried the paint that I bought to see how rough the finish is and, sadly, it looks like it will fail the test. However, it is very similar in colour to the road past my house. The supplier does to another paint with sand in it do I shall try that mixed in with what I already have.

All the best,
Chris.
Chris
N & Z Home Page -- Bahnhof Breitenfurt - Ost

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David

We have a lot of cobblestone roads here in Holland as well, and well, the faster you drive the better it is!
It seems that at the right speed you start to hover, only barely touching the ground every now and then (this happens usually at 70km/h). When you slow down to 40km/h, it often becomes unbearable.

Of course, only try this in safe conditions, not in the Altstadt of Frankfurt am Main ;)

I imagine that in scale Z it's difficult, but I have used plaster of Paris in a mold for my roads. These molds are available from Spörle.

And example is here:
http://www.altenbekener-eisenbahnfreunde.de/Grundlagen/Gips/gips.html
Not necessary to read the German text, just scroll down for the pictures.

Of course this is scale H0, I don't know if they have appropriate molds for other scales as well.

David.
David Hoogvorst. Founder and Owner of DRail Software. Creator of AnyRail.

Andrew

Hi Chris,
I think most of the inner city in German cities have cobble stones. Unfortunately, most of them have a speed limit of 30km, which usually is very bumpy. Unless they were correctly laid.

Andrew
Yours,

Andrew

Andrew

I forgot to add this link with the view of Breitenfurt, in the Free State of Bavaria.
http://www.dollnstein.info/gem-brei.htm
Yours,

Andrew

Jeff

Chris,

" back in the 60's I often rode my old Vincent Black Shadow over cobbles in Frankfurt am Maine without feeling any excessive vibration"

Maybe they use the same cobblestone modeling technique you do? :D
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Chris

Hi Jeff.

MY cobblestones will be laid to perfection!!!

I've done an interim diary update (i.e. no pictures - they will come later). Probably not worth the visit unless you really want to.

With best wishes,
Chris.
Chris
N & Z Home Page -- Bahnhof Breitenfurt - Ost

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Chris

August 09, 2010, 11:30:52 pm #57 Last Edit: August 09, 2010, 11:35:25 pm by Chris
Hello Folks.

Today saw another small leap forward. At the end of last week I prepared the baseboard for ground level scenery by applying a couple of coats of Woodland Scenics undercoats (green and brown as appropriate). Today I added in the cinder covered freight yard and the cobblestoned street and station yard. There is a helicopter view of it all but it's not very good as I have mislaid my camera and had to use a slimline pocket one instead. Anyway, do have a look (link below) and let me know what you think. (And, yes, the cobblestones are perfectly laid Jeff. You would find it a delight to be able to walk along the street and look over the wall into the loco refuelling access track.)

With my best wishes to all,
Chris.
Chris
N & Z Home Page -- Bahnhof Breitenfurt - Ost

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Chris

Hello everybody. Me again.

I put all the bits of my layout together this afternoon so that a friend was able to see it in all its glory. So, while I was at it I took four photos (actually a lot more but four were selected) to put up on the website. These were taken with my replacement camera with a proper flashgun attached. They are now up on the site and are, I feel, the best so far even though I set the wrong aperture and forgot to put the flash on wide angle. Anyway, I think the effect is very good and no shadows! Do have a look - I hope you will be impressed.

All the best,
Chris.
Chris
N & Z Home Page -- Bahnhof Breitenfurt - Ost

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David

Indeed, looks quite good!
Especially the right hand side, where the scenery flows quite well into the backdrop.

Perhaps you can make some more pictures at Z-person eye level?

The only thing that worries me a bit is the shiny track. Are you going to put some ballast in, and blacken it a bit? I know it's very risky in Z gauge to do anything to the track at all, but I'm sure it will make it look so much more realistic.

David.

David Hoogvorst. Founder and Owner of DRail Software. Creator of AnyRail.