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Help with connection points on my Kato N Scale track plan

Started by jevansoh, February 17, 2025, 02:11:17 PM

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LDL

The black dots are the feeders and the triangles are the isolators, yes? How is power getting to the indicated turnout?  If the points are set straight, no power flows to the points end of the turnout.
JMR feeders.png

Section names- click a piece of track in the named section, not the name. The name is part of the section's description, like the color.

jevansoh

Quote from: LDL on April 11, 2025, 06:23:03 PMThe black dots are the feeders and the triangles are the isolators, yes? How is power getting to the indicated turnout?  If the points are set straight, no power flows to the points end of the turnout.
JMR feeders.png

Section names- click a piece of track in the named section, not the name. The name is part of the section's description, like the color.

Feeders will be soldered directly to the turnout at the single / entering end (don't know what that end is called) and that's how they'll get their power.

Yes, the triangles are the isolators.  I do understand that.  The turnouts are power routing, so power will be routed to whichever rail it's set to, right?  As long as we have feeders connected to the entry of the turnout (soldered directly to it) we should be good, no?

Thanks,

--Jason

LDL

Please find Kato wiring instructions.  I seem to be unable to explain it.

jevansoh

Quote from: LDL on April 12, 2025, 12:16:50 AMPlease find Kato wiring instructions.  I seem to be unable to explain it.

So we may have to make every single turnout its own section/block then and solder wires directly to the turnouts to give them power.

Is that what you're saying?

We've done that for some already, but thought on a few others we could get by with having just one feeder for a few turnouts, but I guess you're saying that won't work.

I've looked at the Kato turnout wiring and to me, it looks like as long as it's fed from the incoming end (not the frog end) it will have power and work. 

Sorry if I've frustrated you and sorry if I'm still not grasping something.

Maybe you could point to a diagram or something if I'm still missing something, but I think as long as we solder directly to the turnout to give it power, it should be fine, no?

Thanks again for everything.

--Jason

jevansoh

Quote from: jevansoh on April 17, 2025, 07:26:05 AM
Quote from: LDL on April 12, 2025, 12:16:50 AMPlease find Kato wiring instructions.  I seem to be unable to explain it.

So we may have to make every single turnout its own section/block then and solder wires directly to the turnouts to give them power.

Is that what you're saying?

We've done that for some already, but thought on a few others we could get by with having just one feeder for a few turnouts, but I guess you're saying that won't work.

I've looked at the Kato turnout wiring and to me, it looks like as long as it's fed from the incoming end (not the frog end) it will have power and work. 

Sorry if I've frustrated you and sorry if I'm still not grasping something.

Maybe you could point to a diagram or something if I'm still missing something, but I think as long as we solder directly to the turnout to give it power, it should be fine, no?

Thanks again for everything.

--Jason

I've also looked at your plan with the feeders layer and that's pretty much exactly how we're doing it. :)

LDL


jevansoh

Hello,

I can now say I have everything installed, wired, and running!

But I've run into a problem in my iTrain automation software where I'm getting deadlocks so I need to make a small change and add a crossover on the right hand side.

I can't seem to get it to fit and was wondering if you could possibly work your magic and help me find a way to get the pieces to fit.

I basically need to either use two turnouts or a crossover and connect them to the rest of the plan on the right hand side.

Would you be so kind as to take a look?

Thanks so much!

--Jason

jevansoh

I've changed it to a double crossover and gotten it "close" but I just can't seem to get it to fit.

Is there any way to make this happen?

I sure hope so.

Thanks,

--Jason

LDL

A double crossover will fit in sections 73.7/73.8. 

freescopesdad

#129
put a 20130 on inside track and 20140 on outside track. Fit perfectly.

EDIT... I proposed this before you put in the double x-over, but this still works with the single crossover on your previous posted trackplan. But... why do you need a double x-over there?
Ron
Chicago Blue Island Railroad

LDL

Look at post #100 of this thread.  If you need a double crossover, replace the two S248s and two S124s in Revision 10 with two S62s and a 310mm double crossover.

freescopesdad

[friendly rant on]. Yeah, how did this plan get so unnecessarily complicated? As LDL states, as shown in your revision 10, just replace the pair of S248/S124 straights with a pair of S62 and the double crossover. A bigger question in my mind, where is jevansoh and why so difficult to figure this stuff out? Sorry had to ask, but there is a benefit to figuring this all out on your own. It will make for a better understanding on your part of the software and Unitrack, and more importantly, your layout.

The thing about AnyRail, and probably most track planning software, is that you can make all the changes in the world to a set plan and not really change the existing unless you save it with the same file name. So start experimenting with different track lengths, radii, etc., until something works. It eventually will, and you'll derive more satisfaction solving it yourself. [friendly rant off].
Ron
Chicago Blue Island Railroad

jevansoh

Hello,

I'm here.

I figured it out on my own and forgot to come back to this thread to update everyone.

The new crossover is installed right where you guys suggested on the straight section before the curve and is working beautifully.

It's for a wait and bypass section and is using iTrain for automated running so we needed it in order to not get trains "stuck" without anywhere to go.

Thanks all for your help!

I believe this plan is now finally finished as we're testing the software and things seem to be going well.

Thanks again,

--Jason